Hi, my name is Brent Anderson from Pollstar Palazzos and I'm here with Hadar Schwartz from Israel and colleague of mine in the physical therapy world and research world and plot his world. And we're here at the PMA conference in Denver, Colorado, the 2015 conference. And we're excited because we actually are spoiled with two beautiful ultrasound machines and we're able to sort of test the waters on some thoughts and some philosophies. We've been teaching for a long time, particularly about the hydraulic amplifier and the relationship of the pelvis as to the pelvic floor, to the diaphragm. So what we're going to look at now is that beautiful relationship with the pelvic floor, the diaphragm, as we see that inverse relationship of descension and ascension of both. And we always talk about the hydraulic amplifier and this relationship between the diaphragm and the pelvic floor.
And one of our interests is to see how spontaneous organization takes place in these areas with breath. So what we're observing now is that as the, as she breathes in the pelvic floor, drops down in the diaphragm, drops down. As she exhales, we see the diaphragm rising up and we see the pelvic floor rising up. So we see this real beautiful relationship that we've hypothesized, but it's nice now that we actually are capturing the information a with two ultrasounds to able to do that. Uh, the other thing that we're looking at here is just the ease at which the pelvic floor naturally responds to breath. And I think it's important for us to understand that, uh, sometimes we over recruit and we ask our clients to do volitional contraction. The pelvic floor.
And what we think we're seeing now is just when people use natural breath is one of the best facilitators of natural displacement of the pelvic floor as well as the diaphragm. In contrast to that, when we see people over recruiting in our recruiting the pelvic floor over recruiting the abdominal wall, we actually see a decrease in his beautiful relationship of the diaphragm, a movement in the pelvic floor movement in their normal natural relationship. So tip of the day is if we do a little less queuing on the contraction of these muscles and a little more queuing on breathing. And Natural Organization of the spine, the call on the rib cage, the pelvis, I think we're gonna see a much healthier pelvic floor and diaphragm.